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  • Hey Winslow (or Master Ellis, whichever you prefer)! I'm Lostris, and I'll be the Wiki Manager for Arcadia Oaks-pedia. Like Mandy before me, you may always contact me if you have any questions about this community, which can range from a question to a full-time staff member, which I will relay for you, to editing, design, social problems, etc. Or even if you just have a cool idea for this community that you feel could use a little more Fandom love, don't hesitate to reach out to me, either by messaging me on my wall or on Discord if you prefer that medium.

    As I told Violet as well, this wiki already looks amazing, so very well done! As a fan of the franchise, I was very happy to be assigned to be this community's Wiki Manager, and I look forward to start working with you. I can't wait for a release date for Wizards so I can start binging that one as well!

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    • RIP section?

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    • The list of the deceased characters listed on the homepage.

      I took it off, because she did make a good point about being potentially spoilers.

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    • Makes sense.

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    • Hey you both! Yes, sorry about removing that section from this message, but I initially wanted to tell you the same thing, but then just as I posted it, I noticed that Violet already removed it, so it seemed pointless to have another big paragraph for you to read that was already outdated. (RIP = Rest In Peace, in reference indeed to the list of deceased characters).

      Now that I have you both here, I have a few other suggestions I'd like to run by you. Mind you, these are suggestions based on best practices, but in no way am I forcing you to do anything. The decision remains yours of course. I apologise beforehand for the seemingly daunting length of this post. It really are not that many suggestions, but I included a rather lengthy explanation as to why such a change may benefit you. If anything is unclear, I am more than happy to explain it to you.

      On the main page
      • Remove footer at the bottom

      The main page best practice blog touches on this in the "navigating your wiki" section. Basically, there is little point in having links to other communities that have no relevance to your own wikis subject. (And from a personal design point of view, they generally don't look good/don't fit with the overall design of the main page.)

      • Re-add Tales of Arcadia Twitter feed

      I noticed that it used to be there but was later removed. I am just proposing this as it generally provides a quick overview of the latest ToA news, that you can they easily (and generally more thoroughly) cover on the wiki

      • Move the Tour Around Arcadia

      This is such a lovely section that connect your current content and provides some quick links to some high-traffic pages. However, it seems a bit squished together in the right rail, and I feel like it may better come to its full right when put on the actual page (where there is now more room due to the removal of the RIP section).

      Navigation bar

      All the shows are currently grouped under the "shows" header. I would suggest to give each tale its own section in the navbar. There is room enough and would greatly improve the visibility of the links. It would also allow you to add additional links since the navbar allows for 3 levels. Currently, the first one is "Shows", which allows you to add 7 links on the second level, of which now only three are use to (logically) link to each separate show. Each second level link allows for the addition of 10 third level links (which you currently use to link to the general categories of that show).
      Now, if you would remove "shows" as a first level and give Trollhunters, 3 Below, and Wizards each their own first level link, you open up your third level to link to specific main characters or provide easy links to some key objects such as Jim's amulet and Claire's shadow staff.
      Apologies, tl;dr: it would be beneficial for easy navigation.

      Removal of Template:Canon

      This template is put atop nearly every page on the wiki. Personally, I think it may make more sense to switch things around: I think everyone assumes that all content they read on a wiki, especially an official one like this, is valid, properly sourced, and considered canon. As such, such a template seems to be stating the obvious. I would switch the use of said template around to make one "Not canon" and only use it when a page is considered to not be part of the ToA universe. Besides being a benefit for your page's aesthetic, it will also benefit the wiki's SEO value (the ease with which search engines will find and recommend this wiki). So basically you could say that Google doesn't really love the use of such permanent notice templates.

      I these suggestions or some of them seems agreeable to you, I am more than happy to provide any assistance you may need to implement a change (like, if you would want to remove the canon template, that can easily be done with a bot account.)

      So again, apologies for the lengthy post, but these are just some minor things that I think could really help this community. Looking forward to hearing what you think of it (and as said at the beginning, I am in no way forcing you to do anything, so if you don't like something, don't hesitate to say so. I'm here to work with you to make things better, not to tell you what to do and force changes you don't like.)

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    • That canon bar was kind of annoying anyways.

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    • So just remove them from every page?

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    • It's pretty much on all of the character, episode, season, and show pages.

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    • Which is why I propose to remove it. Since it's so overly used, the notice sort of loses its value. People probably don't read it anymore, and if they do, as said, the assumption is that everything is canon anyway, so it is stating the obvious.

      So yes, I would remove it on all pages, and if there are pages where the notice was not present because it contains information that is not considered canon, I would add a new template saying the exact opposite of the current template: "The following information has not appeared or been validated by official sources. Therefor it is not considered to be part of the main continuity."

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    • That actually makes sense.

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    • If you would like to carry out this change, I can help you by using my bot account to remove it for you (in case you don't have your own bot account, of course). That would save you a lot of time.

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    • So like, you can remove it quicker without having to waste time going through all of them?

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    • Yes. As you can see here, there are over 250 uses of that template on this wiki. I can use a bot to pull up that list and automatically remove it on every single page. The bot would also be flagged, which means that its edits do not show up on the recent changes page, so it does not hinder other editors.

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    • That's amazing! If Winslow's up for it, I won't complain. Maybe it is best to remove the canon template.

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    • I will at the earliest be able to do it in an hour, so no worries. I will await the response before doing anything :-)

      Any thoughts on the other suggestions?

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    • It would be more grateful if Winslow shared his opinion before you do so.

      Other than that, everything's fine for now. We'll probably get back to you about the large gap in the mainpage.

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    • Maybe we could try to get the "Gallery" option back. Something happened to it. 

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    • What gallery option are you referring to?

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    • I am referring to the option you get when you edit a page. When you edit a page, there are different icons: a photo icon, a video icon, and a gallery icon. The gallery icon suddenly vanished after a while. It’s been happening on a lot of wikis.

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    • In classic or visual editor or both?

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    • Classic.

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    • I see what you mean. I'll ask around if it is a known bug and if I can have an update about it. In the meantime, you can use the <gallery></gallery> tags. I hope to give you an update shortly.

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    • And maybe use the visual editor to use the source editor.

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    • Haven't heard back from my inquiry about it being a known bug, but I'll keep you posted.

      I am currently in the possibility to run my bot if you wish me to go through with the removal of the canon template.

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    • Go for it whenever you can.

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    • The bot is done running, all 376 instances of the template have been removed.

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    • Cool.

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    • Thank you.

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    • You're welcome, happy to help out!

      In regards to the navbar adjustment I mentioned earlier, I was talking about making a change like this. I just made a mockup for the Trollhunters section to give you an idea of what I was talking about.

      If you wish to see an extended preview, you can paste the following coding in the navbar and use the preview option:

      *Trollhunters
      **Category:Trollhunters Characters|Characters
      ***Jim Lake Jr.|Jim
      ***Claire Nuñez|Claire
      ***Toby Domzalski|Toby
      ***Stricklander
      ***Nomura
      ***NotEnrique
      **List of Trollhunters episodes|Episodes
      ***Trollhunters (Part One)|Part One
      ***Trollhunters (Part Two)|Part Two
      ***Trollhunters (Part Three)|Part Three
      **Category:Trollhunters Objects|Objects
      ***Amulet of Daylight
      ***Trollhunter Armor
      ***Eclipse Armor
      ***Claire's Armor
      ***Toby's Armor
      ***Killahead Bridge
      **Category:Trollhunters Weapons|Weapons
      ***Sword of Daylight
      ***Sword of Eclipse
      ***Shadow Staff
      ***Decimaar Blade
      ***Warhammer
      **Category:Trolls|Trolls
      ***AAARRRGGHH!!!
      ***Blinky Galadrigal|Blinky
      ***Draal the Deadly|Draal
      ***Gunmar
      ***Angor Rot
      ***Vendel
      
      *3 Below
      **Category:3 Below Characters|Characters
      **List of 3 Below episodes|Episodes
      **Category:3 Below Objects|Objects
      **Category:3 Below Weapons|Weapons
      **Category:Aliens|Aliens
      
      *Wizards
      **Category:Wizards Characters|Characters
      **List of Wizards episodes|Episodes
      **Category:Wizards Objects|Objects
      **Category:Wizards Weapons|Weapons
      **Category:Wizards|Wizards
      
      *Special:Community|Community
      **Special:ListUsers|Users
      **Arcadia Oaks-pedia:Troll Tribunal|Troll Tribunal
      ***User:ItsAsIf|ItsAsIf (bureau/head coder)
      ***User:WinslowOddballs456|WinslowOddballs456 (bureau)
      **Policies
      ***Arcadia Oaks-pedia:File Policies|File Policies
      ***Arcadia Oaks-pedia:Article Creating Policies|Article Policies
      </code>

      Again, the choice is yours. Reading back upon my long bla bla, I just figured it may have been easier to show you as opposed to try to explain what I had in mind.

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    • Not a bad idea.

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    • And I just changed it.

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    • That's great! It should really benefit your readers navigating the site. And speaking as an editor, such easy links often help us as well :-)

      If you wish, I could help build on the navigation for the other two shows like I did for Trollhunters. Could save you some time. If you wish to do it yourself, however, I can totally understand. You know this wiki best after all.

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    • Sure you can do that 

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    • I noticed that there are some strangled pages that still have 3Below written with the space. If it is okay with you, I would like to run the bot again to fix that naming issue. Eg. The 3 Below character category and episode pages.

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    • I’ll fix it.

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    • You sure? There are 83 pages on the wiki that would need a category fix.

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    • I’ll fix them.

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    • I’m sure I can do that.

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    • The bot can do it all automatically, would save you quite some time, but if you want to do it yourself, I won't impose of course.

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    • How do you do that> 

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    • Do what? See which pages need to be changed? I pulled those lists with the bot.

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    • What about the 3 Below characters?

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    • All the 3Below categories (characters, episodes, objects, and weapons) are still written as 3 Below as opposed to 3Below. I would like to help fix that by renaming the categories and running the bot to adjust the categories on all the pages.

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    • Well, I recently just changed the categories on the episode pages.

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    • Great! I hope you don't mind that, I just finished changing the remaining categories, so they should normally all be in order now.

      For future references though, if you ever need to make many repetitive edits to this wiki like removing the canon template, you may always ask for the bot to take care of it. As said, I'm here to make your Fandom experience easier.

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    • And I just did a few characters as well.

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    • Perfect!

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    • Yep. Perfect.

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    • Just so you know, 3Below doesn't have a Part Three.

      There's just a mistake on the navigation bar.

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    • Ah yes, my mistake. I fixed that. It's a shame though, I wouldn't have minded 13 extra episodes.

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    • Yep that’s right.

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    • Yeah, and it's a bummer they had to push the Wizards release date to August (which is actually my birth month).

      Also, on the navigation bar, can you move the troll names to characters and replace them with the troll species (if you know what I mean)?

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    • They delayed it again?

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    • Yes. It's a total bummer, but a month delay is better than waiting until Christmas. Even the workers at Animation studio need to look out for their health, let alone the voice actors. They said that they're almost done, but they're still working on about two or three more episodes until post-production.

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    • Bummer indeed about having to push the release, though on the other hand, great birthday present for you! It would be a lot better than what I got for my birthday: a celebration in quarantine, which hopefully you will not have to experience.

      I can make any changes to the navbar that you like, but as an administrator, you can also just do so yourself if you want. I just added some suggestions there to help users navigate the great resource you all created, by no means are you not allowed to change that.

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    • Would they release those episodes to boost excitement, just like they did with Trollhunters?

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    • *Trollhunters
      **Category:Trollhunters Characters|Characters
      ***Jim Lake Jr.|Jim
      ***Claire Nuñez|Claire
      ***Toby Domzalski|Toby
      ***Blinky Galadrigal|Blinky
      ***AAARRRGGHH!!!
      ***Draal the Deadly|Draal
      ***Vendel
      ***Stricklander
      ***Nomura
      ***NotEnrique
      ***Gnome Chompsky
      ***Gunmar
      ***Bular
      ***Angor Rot
      **List of Trollhunters episodes|Episodes
      ***Trollhunters (Part One)|Part One
      ***Trollhunters (Part Two)|Part Two
      ***Trollhunters (Part Three)|Part Three
      **Category:Trollhunters Objects|Objects
      ***Amulet of Daylight
      ***Trollhunter Armor
      ***Eclipse Armor
      ***Claire's Armor
      ***Toby's Armor
      ***Killahead Bridge
      **Category:Trollhunters Weapons|Weapons
      ***Sword of Daylight
      ***Sword of Eclipse
      ***Shadow Staff
      ***Decimaar Blade
      ***Warhammer
      
        • Category:Trolls|Trolls
          • Changelings
          • Volcanic Trolls
          • Quagawumps
          • Kruberas
          • River Trolls
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    • I can't exactly publish any edits I do with the navigation bar.

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    • You can only publish edits made to the navbar after first clicking preview; you'll get the option to publish in the pop-up then.

      Your suggested changes won't all show up though, as the third level has a limit of 10 characters, so as it stands now, Gnome Chompsky, Gunmar, Bular, and Angor Rot will not show up.

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    • WinslowOddballs456 wrote: Would they release those episodes to boost excitement, just like they did with Trollhunters?

      Release them how? I was late to jump on the Tales of Arcadia train, so I missed the initial release, but could enjoy the fact that I could (and did) binge all the episodes at once :-D

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    • Well, they released the two part pilot for Trollhunters a couple months early before the full series, so I figure they would do the same with Wizards.

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    • Ahh, that would be nice! On the other hand, then we still would have to wait several weeks for the rest. I wouldn't mind just getting some teaser videos and official art instead to then being able to binge the first part entirely.

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    • Yeah, just a few teasers and perhaps official posters and banners would be nice.

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    • According to the Arcadia Facebook page, they have a special announcement tomorrow.

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    • Seriously? Is there a link?

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    • It's most likely the video game "Defenders of Arcadia".
      Defenders of Arcadia Teaser
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    • Yeah. Just go to Facebook and look up, “Tales of Arcadia.”

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    • Hmm, that could be it, too.

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    • Are you planning on adding pages about the game on the wiki as well?

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    • Maybe, when it officially releases.

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    • I wonder what system it’ll be for.

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    • Nitendo Switch and PS4 is what I know.

      It's sadly not going to be a 3D adventure type of game, so I'm not really interested in it.

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    • Is it a Brawling game?

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    • It's side-scrolling view.

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    • Myeah, we'll have to await some official release to have a decent preview, but considering the nature of the franchise, not making it into some 3D adventure seems like a missed opportunity. But still hopeful it will have an interesting gameplay and storyline though!

      If you do decide to include the gameplay on the wiki (I personally think it may be a good idea, since it will increase this wiki's reputation as being the source for all this Arcadia, and since it is the official wiki for the franchise, it is nice to have this included as well), I could give you some best practices tips that we received from the gaming vertical about including games on TV-focused wiki.

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    • In the meantime, perhaps we can just add a general page for the game? Would also be an easy and intuitive place to check for updates.

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    • Nice touch to include Porgon! Seems like the game, while I am personally also not a fan of the side-view, will hold canon storylines, which I definitely think are worthy to be covered on the wiki. Now we will finally know why Porgon was being chased!

      Would it be okay if I created a page for the game to cover what is known thus far?

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    • I created the page.

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    • I think that's perfectly fine. Not that I'm an Admin or Mod (even though I was offered a position LONG ago and it never fell through), but you certainly have my permission.

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    • Violethorse05 wrote: I created the page.

      Awesome! I took liberty to also add it to the navbar so it may get more exposure.

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    • Can’t wait to see the game.

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    • A FANDOM user
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